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sallyburdett - Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:46 pm
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hello all i am totally new to this board and was hoping for some advice?
my beautiful cat "sheba" (a lilac cornish rex) was supposed to go to stud this month - however while hanging my lil girls nappies on the line (yes - shock horror i use cloth!) she got out last month mid season and i am positive she is expecting (hangs head in shame for being so stupid!). there are 3 "swellings" in her slightly expanded waistline. now i have a hnd in animal care and lots of experience with c sections in cats (from working at a vats) however i do need help in preparing for heir arrival? what do i need to do. sheba is getting used to my dog cage - to allow her n kittens pricacy and safetly from my toddler, and i have a huge supply of towels and the basic first aig equipment. i also hve a bottle of lactol n some syringes just in case. what else do i need to do? what are the signs on labour? as you can imagine the only cats i have seen have been c sections or have done it on their own during the night at college so i missed it!. from dates i expect her to be due around the 29th august! - i know the date isnt set in stone and she will have them when she is ready!. please please help. i was hopefully starting up my own cattery but all this has been put on hold due to this unexpected pregnancy! - the studs owner was going to talk me thru her pedigree birth but i feel to embarrassed to phone her now!

annestaff - Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:52 pm
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Firstly welcome to Petchat Sally Very Happy

I'm a dog person I'm afraid but I'm sure someone will be along shortly to help you prepare for the birth if indeed your cats expecting.

sallyburdett - Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:59 pm
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lol - if it had been a dog i wouldnt have worried - i have attended many dog births - but no "normal" cat ones! i am pretty sure she is pg she has a lovely slightly swollen belly with 3 "lumps" all new since last week (which should be right if i am reading my book correctly!). she will be about 3weeks + 3 days!

sally

annestaff - Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:43 pm
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I can't see there being a right lot of difference between a cat and a dog birth so you should cope ok Very Happy

Lu-1 - Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:47 pm
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Already posted this on your other thread but here ya go...
Hi,
Make sure know other pets go near the queen, put her and her nest box, in a dark quiet corner of the house.
In labour, if you have a non-starter, not breathing or a bit too subdude, dip your finger in whisky, and place it on the kittens tounge, the same for pups.
We allways weaned our pups and kittens on similar things, it doesnt sound too nice, but god do they lap it up, porridge, done fairly milky, and let it cool, with, in kittens case, try putting some flaked fish in, be fairly liberal, if they dont like this, try some scraped lean beef, not mince as this carries to much gristle.
Once upon a few years back,
the family had a tortie and white persian, she was a stunner was TInker Bell, and she got out and got abused by a rather large wild haired black Tom, and when she had kittens the kittnes were so big, with big heads and she had 16 of them she was waddling with her back legs seperated for a whole week after that, poor little girl, but how would u like 16 big bodied, big headed babies coming out of your behind without any painkilling medicine ooh the pain, cant wait for your girl to have the kittens, take loads of pics will u
Be careful, cats are notoriuous for dissapearing off having there kittens, and brining them home once they are big enough to carry, that happened to an old moggy of ours.

Anything else you want to know?
Best wishes

dobie_lover - Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:57 pm
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Hi and welcome to petchat i think lu-1 has covered most of it he knows wot he is talking about take his advice its good stuff, and we look forward to kitty pics soon if you are able!!! Laughing

pollaton - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:17 pm
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it sounds like you have all the experience you need, and i am sure the birth will go along fine. good luck and keep us informed of the progress. would love to see pics of her too.

pollaton - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:18 pm
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oh i meant to say hello and welcome too Smile

Lu-1 - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:19 pm
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me too
hi and welcome to pet Chat Embarassed

annestaff - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:21 pm
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I agree with everything Luke says but must say I don't believe in the whiskey on the tongue, could be quite harmful in my opinion. Ask your vet Very Happy

For a non-starter a good vigerous rub in a towel and a swing upwards and down should sort it out.

Lu-1 - Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:27 pm
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well Anne the last time we had kittens in the house was probably about 9 years ago, the vets had different opinions to what they do now, although i have seen it work on a persian cross litter we had 2 non starters in and one came back to us due to this, although a little drowsy which is why it can make things worse sometimes
Best wishes

sallyburdett - Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:34 pm
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hi guys thanks for the welcome and the advice. i should be ok with a non starter as i have dealt with a few of those thru the c sections. any ideas on what labour in cats looks like in the early stages?

momtoscuffy - Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:10 pm
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hello and welcome Very Happy

pollaton - Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:56 pm
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janie (amethystmyst) has just gone through this. i am sure she will be about soon with so good advice. Smile

amethystmyst - Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:09 am
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See my cats on line blog from start to finish it is caled my kitties having kitties! I will boost it to the top so you can have a look through!
It has birth pix and everthing hope it helps!
Don't know anything about c sections unless it human lol!
Would be happy to help if I can! PM me when ever you want! our kitties are 4 weeks old now and all went fine! (First litter) Keep us all updated and welcome to the site! Rexes are one of my fave breeds! Can't wait to see some pix!
Welcome to the site!
Amethystmyst /Janie xx

sambo - Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:04 pm
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Firstly a big welcome to the site sallyburdett Smile

As amethyst has said she is now proud mommy to 4 beautiful kittens so i'm sure she can give you some sound advice good luck Wink

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:05 pm
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hiya - and BIG HUGE thanks to amythyst - i was sooo excited watching them being born! - lol i know it was AGES ago!

anyway here (if it works Embarassed

) is sheba the mum to be before she got pg!

sally

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123533485&idx=1[/img]

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123533485&idx=4[/img]

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:08 pm
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ok so it diddnt work! Embarassed

HELP!

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:08 pm
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[img]http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2123533485&idx=4[/img]

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:19 pm
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[img]http://photobucket.com/albums/a1/sallyburdett/?action=view&current=fishes053.jpg[/img]

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:23 pm
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annestaff - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:35 pm
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You beat me to it Sally, was just about to post your pictures Very Happy

Gorgeous cat.

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:36 pm
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that was mum! lol - and again! without the scary eye's!

and here is the dad! - no idea of his name!

trian and error got me there with the pics- sorry for all the failed posts!

sally

pollaton - Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:18 pm
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she is beautiful. he looks like a right bruiser....proper tom. Very Happy

sallyburdett - Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:23 pm
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lol - i think he is! - defo proper tom - torn ear the lot! - some good news i just had shebas blood test results thru - all clear - will need testing again in 3 months just to be sure!

amethystmyst - Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:29 pm
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What a gorgeous Rex I want one!!!!!
And a hansome tom!

pollaton - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:36 am
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i love toms that look like that, they just look like they own the niegbourhood (and usually do.) Laughing

catmad - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:36 am
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Hello and welcome! So your kitty isn't pregnant then? That's good news and a relief for you, but we were soooo looking forward to having another pregnancy/birth on petchat, awwwwww.... Sad

Your Rex is absolutely beautiful - so regal! What are their natures like?

sallyburdett - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:46 am
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nooo- she definatly IS pregnant! lol

i meant that the photos were of her before she got caught! i will try to take some more of her expanded waisline a bit later!

sally

sallyburdett - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:46 am
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the blood tests were for felv fiv etc etc

catmad - Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:50 am
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Yaaaaay!! Sorry, misunderstood ( Embarassed

)...... Looking forward to tracking her progress - can't wait to see how these kittens are gonna turn out!! Think that they will be kinda handsome!!!

sallyburdett - Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:37 am
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ok - the tom is still in the area. does anyone know if i can get him neutered?

i dont know who he belongs to, and i dont want to upset his owners, but its not a good thing letting him roam like this entire.

if i had him done what would the legal things be?

will a charity neuter him for me?

sorry so many questions.

btw - sheba is glowing!

sally

pollaton - Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:21 am
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if you phone the cpl, they may be able to issue you a voucher towards the cost of neutering. they used to do that in the manchester area. or do you have an rspca vets near to you. they may be able to help. Smile

time to put his wicked ways to rest Wink

sallyburdett - Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:06 pm
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no there is no rspca vet nearby - not even an rspca warden. the nearest thing is an old friend who runs an animal sanctuary - she used to do all the rspca call outs.

the cpl wont issue me with a voucher unless i can gtee he has no owner. he is well fed and healthy so i assume he has a home somewhere, but no neighbours know where although they all recognise him! Laughing

sally

sallyburdett - Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:24 pm
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just seeing if my sig works on here! lol

annestaff - Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:27 pm
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Aww great sig Very Happy

what a cutie

pollaton - Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:32 pm
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ahh she's a cutie!!!

dobie_lover - Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:10 pm
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Awww babies i have gone all broody i want a baby................ o no charlotte go away and leave me alone, no not at the moment i'll do it in a minute, charlotte will you plaese tidy ur room, charlotte please go to bed its nearly 12 o clock.............................o no i am not broody now Laughing

annestaff - Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:16 pm
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LOL don't go there Dobie Laughing

dobie_lover - Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:21 pm
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LOL

pollaton - Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:31 pm
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never get broody, guess it was 10 years of looking after little angels that did that for me. Very Happy

sallyburdett - Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:15 am
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lol . . . . . . . never ever get broody! . . . . . . . well u can get broody i guess, just borow someone elases baby for a couple of hours until u snap out of it! pmsl!

annestaff - Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:46 am
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Great advice Sally Laughing

Wish I'd of tried that a couple of times Rolling Eyes

dobie_lover - Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:59 am
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yeh i wish i had done that aswell i would be living the life of a single woman now..........................................Mel goes off into a dream..................................................................................................................................................................................................... Rolling Eyes

pollaton - Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:02 am
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the dog is a big enough responsibility for me for now. Very Happy

i'm haven't finished my youth yet. Very Happy

sallyburdett - Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:05 am
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lol! i wish i had thought of that too!.................................................. now where did i put that nappy? pmsl

pheobe - Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:26 pm
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Iv had 10 litters in as many years and have had no probs with any of them ,apart from a few times when she did not want to go in the box i had made for her, she wanted to go were she she was happy to have them ,in the stables . Rolling Eyes

sallyburdett - Mon Jul 25, 2005 8:12 pm
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ok back to the subject. she is getting fatter now - should i increase her food ration? as soon as i knew she was pg i put her on kitten food. she has 2 smallish meals a day but now seems hungry - should i give her more? - i know its sounds stupid but i read somewhere that u shouldnt let pg cat get fat cos it can cause probs in birthing!

thanks

pollaton - Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:24 am
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i know they are supposed to eat kitten food for the extra protein, but most cats regulate their food intake so i am not sure how much you should be feeding her. it should tell you on the packet or tin. (dried is definately better) she will get mopre nutrients. Smile

sallyburdett - Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:07 am
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she is on dried, i am free feeding her now so that she gets what she wants!

i am also gonna be a mum again (not a human lol), rex rescue has a lovely boy who is getting on a bit who needs a home. his owner (and breeder) has a terminal illness and has got to let all her babies get new homes. so bo is coming to live with me! he is a black smoke devon rex, with a slight kidny problem which is controlled by diet alone. cant wait for him to get here. he is having blood tests as his last ones showed no kidney prob at all so they have put him back on normal diet to retest to see if he still has the prob or if it has resolved!

i'm feeling all excited - kittens and a new pet! not the best timeing i know but hey! - he needs a new mum and i want to be it! - sheba loves her dog pen so much she spends most of her time in there (door is always open!) and is happily making early signs of nests! i bought another litter tray for her pen and feed her there now so that she is used to it. she spends nearly all day either in the pen or alseep on the bed in the same room. (she is in the spare room at the other end of the house - so v quiet!)

anyway enough rambling!

sally

amethystmyst - Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:25 pm
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Photo's put some photies up! I love rex's

sallyburdett - Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:36 pm
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as soon as i get him i will do! just waiting for vets to do their last blood test. cant wait!

sallyburdett - Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:17 pm
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hi guys - well sheb is really starting to show now - cant believe its only 4 weeks to go!, bo will be comming to live with us end of next week - cant wait!. it seems we will have a housefull!

i am free feeding sheba dried kitten food and 2 meals a day of wet kitten food. she is wolfing everything down i put infront of her. i know cornish (if not monitered) are supposedly prone to obesity so i dont want her getting fat which could cause complications!

she has always been a skinny little thing and now just looks plump around her belly where she should be but nowhere else, so i'm not really worried atm.

sally

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:02 pm
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her new belly!

pollaton - Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:22 pm
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thats a great picture. lol

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:35 pm
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lol - she loves her belly rubbed and was complaining thati had stopped to take the photo! lol Laughing

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:52 pm
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introducing bo! these photos are of him in the vets where he is staying to monitor his new diet, he is due his blood test next week so fingers crossed!

sorry theyre not great photos but theyre all i have!

sally

sallyburdett - Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:45 pm
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noone wants to look at bo! Crying or Very sad

pollaton - Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:00 pm
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ah bo.....he has got beautiful eyes. how long is he staying at the vets for?

momtoscuffy - Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:01 pm
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boo soo cute

sallyburdett - Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:27 pm
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until his blood tests next week. he was previously thought to have kidney problems but the last sets of tests have come back negative. the vets have now removed him from his kidney diet, and are monitoring his condition. last blood tests next week to see if he stil needs the diet or not!

sally

pollaton - Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:19 am
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fingers crossed
Wink

Lu-1 - Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:33 pm
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He is very sweet, hope all gos well, i prefer the nice, healthy, robust moggy's myself, like the suspected father of your kittens, he is the kind of cat i'd have curled up on the hearth Wink

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:09 pm
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lu i agree but any cat in rescue (esp an old one) needs a home.

also - i cant have a moggy as my father is allergic to all except rex coats and as i still need hom for babysitting so me n matt can go out occasionally i will not upset this balance!

sally

dobie_lover - Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:25 pm
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i love the picture she is absolutely beautiful and what a poser Laughing

sallyburdett - Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:58 pm
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i was wrong - his blood test was today and he is FINE! all on normal diet. it wouldnt have mattered either way but i am so chuffed. just need to arrange when to pick him up big9

amethystmyst - Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:06 pm
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww I love him!!!!

He looks sooooo sweet!!!!!

And I love the mommy belly picture! lol!!!!

pollaton - Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:56 pm
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yeah great news!!!!! Very Happy

sallyburdett - Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:47 am
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ok!

picking bo up on sunday! and then shebas kittens are due a week sat (27th)!

gonna be a v busy few weeks!

amethystmyst - Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:12 am
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Yay you must put up loads of pix!
I can't wait to see the kitties! And lots more of Bo

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:25 pm
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hiya

more preggy belly photos!

not long to go now!

and

and finally

Juminbu - Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:40 pm
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Bo is lovely. Do the Devon Rexes have curly hair and that's what makes them less hypo-allergenic?

pollaton - Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:49 pm
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she is such a poser. Laughing

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:20 pm
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lol pol

bo (the devon) and sheba (the cornish) both have curly fur. the coat has no guard hairs, and as such has been known to be hpoallergenic.

however this doesnt hold with everyone. as some peoples allergies are related to the dander, or cat spittle (eeuugghh) so the coat type wont affect the allergy.

saly

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:21 am
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ok were getting closer!

day 61 but no signs of labour yet! wont be long though

bo is here an is settling in. he is v shy and hides alot, but when he does come for a stroke he is all cuddly and purring!

sally

Juminbu - Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:18 am
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I am

to hear Bo is settling in.

I am thinking that waiting for Sheba to have her kittens must be quite like playing the expectant Dad in a people scenario. Lots of emotions in there: excited, anxious, protective, proud, etc., etc. Laughing

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 23, 2005 12:03 pm
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lol very much so. she has just wolfed down a tin of tuna so i dont think it will be today - theyre upposed to go off their food when the time is close!

sally

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:46 pm
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ok.... we have had a show! mucous plug came away! - so all systems go for tonight or tomorrow! will keep you posted!

sally

annestaff - Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:57 pm
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Just caught up with this thread, good luck with the babies Very Happy

Juminbu - Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:56 am
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Hi Sally: How's the Mum-to-be Sheba getting on? Any babies yet? Rolling Eyes

It is very quiet in the forum today! Confused

amethystmyst - Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:30 pm
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Oh my good ness! Its getting closer! I loved this bit feeling the kitties in her tummy and then when they were born! Make sure you take lots of pix of the birth ! You couldn't see much on Freya's birth as she and the kitters were all back and they blended in together but sheba is fair so you could get some fab pix!
Can't wait yay!!!!!! xxxxx

pollaton - Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:52 pm
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ooh very exciting. has she been making nests like freya did or has she just settled for a spot in the most inconvenient place in the house. lots of updates please and pics Smile

sallyburdett - Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:03 pm
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hiya

still no kittens

had lots of mucous - but she's still eating, still having manic moents chasing her toys. she is sleeping more - but then i was tired at the end of my pregnancy.

on pins here waiting for things to kick off! feel like the expectant father (i am a girl though rofl)

anyway!

will keep you posted.

any advice readily appreciated! lol

sally

Katten-Minnaar - Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:35 pm
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Good luck with Sheba's Birth...I will be thinking of you and hoping it all goes well Smile

I look forward to hearing about the bundles of joy when they are born Smile

Eva x

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:39 am
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eva!!!

i had to reboot my pc so lost u on my yahoo!! email me on it when u can!

sally

amethystmyst - Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:29 am
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Any babies yet!!

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:00 am
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no nothing

we had mucous yesterday and day before (sorry if tmi!)

she woke us up at 6.30 - i thought this is it!

no she wanted to play! she has been full of beans all morning, isnt nesting (never has!) and kittens are doing star jumps in there!

will keep you all updated!

sally

pollaton - Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:20 am
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not long to go....we are definately on count down. Smile

sallyburdett - Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:06 pm
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lol poll i hope so!

amethystmyst - Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:55 pm
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Any news any news any news!!!! I can;t wait to see these kitties!!!!! The are going to be beautiful!!!!!

sallyburdett - Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:32 pm
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still no kitties - due date is officially today and she has still shown no signs of going into labour!

am shattered - have hardly slept as i want to keep an eye on her!

sally

Juminbu - Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:29 pm
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lol...I think we all feel your anxiety and excitement Sally. All this talk and anticipation of the pitter patter of tiny paws!! ...when is the age for not feeling broody I wonder?! Embarassed

amethystmyst - Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:25 pm
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I had worried for a bout a week with Freya and in the end she came and sat down next to me and started to push! Awwwwww it was so magical!
She was sooo brave! I hope you don't fall asleep and miss it all! Me and the kids all stood round Freya while she had them it was wonderful and she was purring away like there was no tomorrow after a few yelps!
I really am watching this thread now as I know what you are going through! It is soooooo exciting!

sallyburdett - Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:55 pm
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i think thats what sheba will do - she will just come and sit on me to give birth! she is such an affectionate cat and follows me everywhere! looking forward to it but really scared too!

sally

amethystmyst - Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:20 pm
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Freya went really over affectionate just before her labour started it was like she was in pain but had come to me for some reasurance then just as she got comphy I thought I wonder! I lifted her tail up and there was a milky discharge and all the fur round her bum was wet then she literally started pushing and with in about 5 minutes she had had her first baby!
God I have to stop i'm getting all broody! lol

amethystmyst - Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:02 am
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Sheba have you had your babies yet!!!!!!??????

sallyburdett - Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:10 pm
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lol no! - we have had some nesting today so i am all fingers crossed for tonight. she is now day 67 but i know some oriental breeds carry until day 72 (there is alot of oriental and siamese outcrossing in cornish rex to widen the gene pool) so i am not too concerned yet. if she hasnt had them by tuesday though were gonna go to the vets for a check up!

lots of kitten movement still so i know everything is ok on that score and she is still "leaking" mucous which from reading up is a good sign.

she is eating well and has LOADS of milk!

sally

amethystmyst - Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:15 pm
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Freya's boobs went almost human looking when she was just about to give birth! Awww these babies are going to be well cute!
xx

sambo - Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:46 pm
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Good luck on the arrival sally looking forward to seeing more kitten pics Smile

amethystmyst - Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:17 am
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Any kitties! Kittie?

sallyburdett - Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:33 am
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hiya!

still no kitties! am getting really twitchy - plenty of kitten movement still and she is eating well. am thinking of popping her to vets tomorrow or wednesday just for a check up!

sally

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 30, 2005 8:56 am
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hellooooo

well i am very very please to announce the safe arrival of 3 kitties!

1 - black n white, 70g - normal delivery, mum not sure what to do so rubbed down and cord dealt with while mum ate placenta

2) cream - 80g breach delivery mum did everything!

3) tabby - 90g breach delivery - mum to tired to deal with so i did the necessarys

mum and babies all doing well. all delivered within one house ar 5.30-6.30 this morning.

am shattered as she gave birth on my lap! - and wouldnt move off, so have been up since labour started at 3.30am!!

photos to follow!

sally

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:32 am
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in order of appearance! lol

sallyburdett - Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:34 am
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annestaff - Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:12 am
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Congratulations, thats great news!

wav

Juminbu - Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:19 am
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Sally And Sheba

♪ ♪ ♪ "I'm so excited, I just can't hide it.."

This is brilliant news. Bless her and you. You both must be really shattered. Poor Sheba having the agony and stress of breach births Sad

Mum looks really contented now

The kittens are really beautiful. You must be so excited and releaved.

The beige one looks quite like Mum with wavy/curly hair?! Question

amethystmyst - Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:18 pm
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YAY!!!!!
What a colourful litter! Shocked

bless they are all just sooooo

y Ahhhhhhhhhh!!
Well done sheba on your stunning and colourful little bundles of fluff!
Congrats all round!!!!! xxxxxx Laughing

momtoscuffy - Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:35 pm
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well done they are beauitful

pollaton - Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:51 pm
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congratulations!!! they all look beautiful. hope mum is feeling very proud of herself #Smile_colors

Lu-1 - Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:45 pm
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WOW they are gorgeous, looks like you may have 2 rex coated kittens there Very Happy

sallyburdett - Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:26 pm
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hiya

no unfortunatly none of the kitties will be curly coated Sad

but that doesnt matter they are still gorgeous.

can i ask everyone to ask around for good homes?

each kitten will be:
vaccinated
vet wormed
frontlined
vet checked
neutered/spayed
blood tested (to be doubly sure daddy hasnt given them something nasty)

and they will come with a diet sheet, large bag of food, litter sample, care sheets, toys and vaccination records.

all of this is going to cost me a minimum of £200 per kitten - i'm not asking this much but they are more expensive than "ordinary" moggies. the kittens could have been registered as cornish varients as dsh (dad) is a reccognised outcross for cornish - but i would rather they go to pet homes - hence the neutering.

thanks

sally

pollaton - Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:27 pm
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i didn't think you could neuter cats until they are 5-6 month old? but i do think its a good idea to get everything done. i'd love one, but will have to suffice with the pics. Smile

sallyburdett - Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:51 pm
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hiya

no there is a common misconception that neutering (in cats not dogs) can only be done from 4months old. however many many vets are now practicing early neutering as all studies have shown no detrimental effects - they grow the same as cats that are neutered at 4. 8 & 12 months. if your interested i can find you a couple of links to the research. it has been found to have a more positive effect as kittens recover quicker from the anaesthetic and appear to need less recouperation time.

sally

pollaton - Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:53 am
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i think that is great news. it means the breeders can have more of the responsibility and unless it is a cat that is good to breed from it makes sense.
yeah send me the articles i would like to read them. i don't own cats anymore, but stuff like that is always interesting. maybe you could post something on the site. may be good for everyone to have a read of. Smile

sallyburdett - Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:07 am
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hiya

posted as requested. i have stuck a few links in the petchat general pets forum. with the request it be made sticky as it does have lots of valuable information, and is something all breeders/owners should consider.

sally

pollaton - Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:58 am
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i've had a look and i think its great that finally something can be done to possibly help all the unwanted kittens that are being born every day. Smile

sallyburdett - Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:35 pm
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more pics!!

i took these yesterday they were 9 days old! their eyes have been open for about 4 days now and they are soooo cute!

we have :

black - girl
tabby - girl
cream - boy

i think!

annestaff - Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:29 pm
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Aww they all have their eyes open too Very Happy

There really lovely Sally.

pollaton - Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:18 pm
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gosh didn't their eyes open early. great pics!!! i want them all (espescially the cream one, what a cutie. Very Happy

amethystmyst - Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:23 am
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Awwwww they are all wearing sox!! Love'm what a beautiful batch of kitties!
You must be soooo proud!

krumbock - Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:56 pm
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hello iam new to this site

i have a male english bull terrier he is only 7mths at the moment but we would really like to use him as a stud dog. his blood line is very good his pedigree line has many champions his father and his grand father won crufts.

i feel a little like a doggie pimp Rolling Eyes

, but would really like to know what is the best age to but him out to stud?

if some one could please give me some information or if any one out their is a english bull terrier breeeder would love some help?

Beckyess - Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:23 pm
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No reputable breeder would want to use your dog at stud unless he had been shown and he was an exemplary example of his breed. Owning a stud dog is not an easy way to make money. Bearing in mind you have a bull terrier he could become dog aggressive and they tend to start cocking their leg in the house. Also you would need to have a steady supply of bitches for him.
Are you prepared to take responsibility for any puppies he produces or do you feel that once he's done his bit the puppies are all the bitch owners responsibility?
Ask yourself the question 'who would use your dog at stud' some of his pups could end up being bought by entirley the wrong people.
I'd say keep him as a pet. He doesn't need to have puppies.
Becky

bubbles3 - Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:15 pm
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Beckyess wrote:

Have to totally agree with Becky.

oracle - Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:50 am
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hi i have been presant at 5 cat births and my cat used to come to me when she was in labour even if it was at 4 in the morning my advice is just stay with her make her comfy and enjoy the magic Very Happy

tilly898 - Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:08 pm
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When our cat had her three kittens there were no problems at all, they seem to sort it all out for themselves. We had previously made her a cosy area to have her babies but she chose to give birth in the airing cupboard on a duvet (not silly are they?) and that became their bed for the next 6 weeks.

It was an absolutely great experience and fortunately we kept one kitten (who grew into the most lovable cat ever) and found good homes for the other two.

jodie - Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:20 pm
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hi im a new to this as well my cat had kittens 5 wks ago and she found a nice quite dark place under my daughters bed she had four she did it all on there own but if you do have any that need a bit of help then like others have said a warm towel and a good rub will get them going if there not breathing then do a tiny blow down there noses to clear any mucas then the rub and they should be fine good luck it will be great fun when mossy had hers it was like i had had them myself

jodie - Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:35 pm
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hiim new at this to so hi everyone she will be just fine she will do it all ut if one isnt breathing a few short blows down the nose and a warm towel and a good rub will do the trick