Telling if my rabbits pregnant

Beckyess

Well I don't have lots of money or time to be able to fund raise for them so I think that donating a pup is what I can do so I do it. Besides, to think that a pup I bred has helped someone makes me feel really good (selfish I know but hey!)
Becky
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GerbilPunk

its ok, i go to grammar school so it makes me feel good when i say other people are of average intellegence! Laughing

oh, and fielding, that is what a proper breeder does. thinks of the future, not the present.
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Twig

'don't get rid' well sorry them seem like such a hassle, theres something very cold about wanting to get rid of an animal.
As for not killing them, well thats good, I hate breeders who cull stock, but technically you are still killing them, as by producing more, it means your rabbits take the place of other rabbits, hence some poor bunnies are killed at over run rescues.
I'm 17 as well, and with the amount of studying I do, and also having a social life means I don't understand why kids get into breeding. You are still relying on others to pay for your animals.
'Phase'....that scares me, what is the next phase? A rabbit mill?

Yes I AM an animal lover, which is why I find it so hard to understand how you can breed more rabbits when there are already too many breeders and not enough rescues. And I'd even go so far as to say I wouldn't care if people stopped breeding animals as pets, as its purely for our own selfishness we have them, and so many suffer because of it.
I wouldn't have so much of a problem if you were breeding correctly, any responsible breeder does so to 'improve the species' but you seem quite happy to experiment. Rolling Eyes

GerbilPunk

come on fielding you're 17, like twig said you should be studying for all your exams, and hanging around with your friends, not overpopulating the world with bunnies! if you want to carry on breeding when you're older then fine, at least you'll have a little more sense then... hopefully. go and visit a rabbit rescue home. go and see how many unwanted rabbits are dumped there, then think to yourself about what you're doing! (and this is coming from a 13-year-old!)
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Spud

Thank you Twig. As a rescuer myself I am constantly frustrated by the throwaway attitude of most breeders. Responsible breeders are few and far between - to the point that I have never met a breeder that I would class as responsible. In fact, the one guy that I did feel was responsible ended up dumping his 'stock' on me when he decided that he didn't want to do it anymore.

Fielding, you say that the pet store will give them the best homes. But you also say that this is solely on the basis of 'knowledge'. Does the pet store carry out home checks? Do they have adoption contracts? Someone could easily recite a children's pet care book to get a cheap pet, and you have no idea of the kind of home that your rabbits are going to. Are you aware of the genetic history of the parents, and have researched the problems that could occur during birthing? You could lose the mother and that's not a risk that I'd want to take.

I understand wanting cute babies; when I was 13 and 14 I used to want to breed myself. But then I discovered what happened to the thousands of homeless rabbits dumped carelessly on shelters and rescues throughout the country. And now I'm one of those rescues. Breeding isn't a profitable business, and it isn't just a case of putting a male and female together and reaping the rewards. Complications can occur regardless of how experienced the breeder is, and the risk of these complications is amplified by an unknown genetic background of the parents or a lack of breeding knowledge or experience. The fact that you don't know how to recognise whether a doe is pregnant or not concerns me. I don't believe that you are ready for such a huge responsibility; one that many people twice your age would be foolish to take up.

Please think seriously about what you are doing. What has been said here, from everybody, is not a personal attack on you, but breeding contributes towards the awful over-population problem in this country which causes thousands of healthy animals to be destroyed every year, and holds serious risks that many completely overlook. You clearly care about rabbits, but perhaps you simply aren't aware of the harm that you may be causing to them by continuing with your breeding ideas.

GerbilPunk

i agree with spud. other than "knowledge" what are you breeding them for? just out of boredom? did you suddenly think, im bored, oh i know, i'll become a rabbit breeder!

oh, and by the way spud, how do you and twig write so much? Laughing

dont your hands hurt? Confused

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Fielding

Well ive got enough room i just dont want more, if i cnt get rid of them then i will keep them but so far petshops or friends of mine have taken them and i still c most of the rabbits now and i feel from what ive seen they are gone to good homes, i also state when selling if you cnt be bothered with them bring them back!

ma parents like the fact that my minds on something else other than drug (what most teenagers do) so they support me and help me.

GerbilPunk

shadylady

i have bred rabbits in the past, and i no all to well the difficulties in rehoming, and most people breed to keep a baby of one of there beloved pets for their kind nature and outgoing personalties because these r past through genarations all u have to do is look at the parents to see most animals personalities, they also breed to get better qualities of that type of breed for shows etc...
and i reassure you my rabbits all have great homes because i know my bunnies owners and its great to catch up with them and see how they r getting on and i give advice if they need it too,

also if your rabbit is pregnant to help her with producing milk i give my rabbits a mixture of bread and milk warmed up. your rabbits nipples should also be somewhat bigger now she is three weeks pregnant...
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Twig

I never understand why breeders give rabbits cows milk! Rolling Eyes

They don't need it, and you certainly don't see wild rabbits chasing cows udders in the field. And for good reasons, rabbits are herbivores!

As for bread, high in carbs, the opposite of what any bun needs. Confused

GerbilPunk

Twitchy loves bread! i didnt mean him to taste it, he was sitting next to me as i ate my lunch, i turned to get a drink, and the next thing i know, a pair of paws land on my lap and nab my sandwhich! he was quick too! i got most of it away from him, but he seemed pretty determined to keep it! Laughing

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shadylady

they give rabbits the milk and bread mainly for energy to cope better with the pregnancyand birth and as i wrote before to produce much more mik, than wat u would get if u never gave them it, i never understood it myself but i believe it helps as my rabbits produced wonderful offspring and all healthy too, breeders have also done this well before i was born..
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GerbilPunk

so a cheese sandwhich wouldn't hurt my little bunny? Confused

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Twig

Cows milk is hard to digest, very high in lactose, even human babies can't have cows milk and hence so many dogs and people are lactose intolerant. How can you justify feeding a herbivore animal products? Thats exactly how mad cow disease started. Rolling Eyes

Its not natural, and its not neccessary, plenty of people who have accidental litters and are unaware their bun is pregnant get by WITHOUT cows milk and bread.

As for energy, well ALL food has some level of energy, and as you feed sugary russell rabbit mix, they have plenty of energy. Wink

Fielding

See thats what I don't get about people on this site, all I came on this site to do is to learn other techniques and try some out, all the people on here do is contradict each other and try tell them they are wrong, the only way that people will find out what is wrong or right is try the thing themselves rather than hear people contradict example in this forum is Twig came in with the very true facts about the cow milk however if Twig tried it out it may work how shadylady said.

If people discussed rather than told alot more tips would be on here and people would find out the best tips.